Curse

d4nowar · Jun 28, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Seriously.

Over the months of Guild Wars I've noticed that people can't seem to get the names of missions and outposts right. At first, I thought, "Oh well its still the beginning of the game, they will learn." But they still do it. They might say it one time on accident, but I'm talking about the people that know part of it and never bother to even TRY to remember what the next part of it is.

Is it that hard to remember the names of the missions or outposts? It seems that they just make up things that sound right.

The most common one I see is "Elona's Reach (Elona Reach)" and I understand that to some point. I think maybe people think it is "Epona's Reach" and they are remembering the days of Zelda, but that's just pointless.

I also see the crazy ones that have half of it right, but then the other half is bogus.

Ventari's Dell (Ventari's Refuge)
Dragon Eye (Dragon's Lair)
Lion's Gate (Lion's Arch)

I've seen more but those are the ones I remember off of the top of my head.

How hard is it to remember a few simple names of towns and outposts? What goes through peoples' heads when they try to remember these?

"Lets see... I know it had the word dragon in it... hmm... dragons have eyes! Dragon Eye!"

"Ventari... uhhh... err...*looks around room for object*.. Ventari's Dell!"

I may be alone here but whenever people say those I cringe a little.

I can already predict some of the responses I am going to get, "Jeez no one's perfect its not like you don't mess up ever." and "Sometimes I can't remember every word of it, but I really do know it!" If you want to post either of those, do it in your head. I already know.

Epinephrine · Jun 28, 2005, 08:01 PM // 20:01

No I totally agree; my Ragner was over in the Sardelan Sanctimonium after coming from pre-searing Ascathon and these guys were talking about how they were going to go to the Delivery Seabord! It's not Delivery, it's DELISSIO!

Rofl

Swampgirl Inez · Jun 28, 2005, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

No I totally agree; my Ragner was over in the Sardelan Sanctimonium after coming from pre-searing Ascathon and these guys were talking about how they were going to go to the Delivery Seabord! It's not Delivery, it's DELISSIO!

Rofl

LOL

Jelloblimp · Jun 28, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

No I totally agree; my Ragner was over in the Sardelan Sanctimonium after coming from pre-searing Ascathon and these guys were talking about how they were going to go to the Delivery Seabord! It's not Delivery, it's DELISSIO!

Rofl

...its SARDELAC SANITARIUM

, I call it just "sardelac" though.

Andy_M · Jun 28, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Just trying to avoid some of the larger cliches in the game...

I mean Dragons Lair - devs put a lot of thought into that name. Would have been funnier if we had a character in the background called Dirk..

Dreamsmith · Jun 28, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by d4nowar

"Ventari... uhhh... err...*looks around room for object*.. Ventari's Dell!"

Some people do just make up names, but some of these are not made up, just people not remembering all the name changes that have occured since beta (for example, Ventari's Refuge used to actually be called Ventari's Dell, and before that it was called Ettin's Back [it was one of several outposts that bore the same name as the explorable area they were in, but all got renamed, in some cases several times]).

Kishin · Jun 28, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

Actually, Ventari's Refuge was originally Ventari's Dell before Release. In fact, when you talk to Ventari himself during a Quest Councillor Vaylor gives you, he says something along the lines of "Welcome to the Dell." at the beginning of his speech.

I freely admit, I used to make the mistake of thinking "Lion's Gate" all the time myself at first. This is a weird sort of conditioning though, as Lion's Gate is a large film company, so essentially, people are used to hearing the two words together.

Dragon's Eye is another common combination/phrase/place or object name in RPGs/etc., so I can easily see people slipping and saying that as well.

I think it's totally unconscious. It's more bothersome to watch the complete inability of about 50% of Lion's Arch in spelling 'Galrath'.

Porkchop Sandwhiches · Jun 28, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by d4nowar

I can already predict some of the responses I am going to get, "Jeez no one's perfect its not like you don't mess up ever." and "Sometimes I can't remember every word of it, but I really do know it!"

As long as you know what I mean, it doens't really matter.

Divinitys Creature · Jun 28, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Here is some insight: During most of the betas, Ventari's Refuge was called Ventari's Dell, and there never used to be a centaur like creature called Ventari hanging out there like there is now IIRC. I always thought "if it's Ventari's Dell then where the hell is he" and put it down to a historical name.

I'm not too sure about the next one. Lion's Gate. I think during the WPE (World Preview Event) it was called that. There was no Ascalon. You did a 30 second tutorial where you talked to two npcs and you graduated from training by walking into Lion's Gate. The first or second Beta Weekend Event, BWE, was when they renamed it to Lion's Arch. I'm, not too sure but I remember talking to people about Lion's Gate in game and they were saying "you mean Lion's Arch" and I looked at the map and thought I just had it wrong from the beginning! Since I'm not sure, maybe I was!

Dragon Eye - WTF! The desert was not open during the BWEs apart from Tombs, which you got to after beating Sanctum Cay IIRC. I don't think the ship cutscene was there either? You could get there with your PVP char of course. The desert missions were available in the Korean Beta, maybe it was called Dragon Eye then or someone did a bad translation. Did you meet people calling it Dragon Eye in the international districts?

Epona's reach - LOL it is Elona's Reach as you know. Maybe that was just a typo because p and l are close to each other on the keyboard, and when one person spells something wrong and people read it and don't know better they make the same mistake?

EDIT - i started typing this and thought it would be the first reply but you all beat me to it!

Night Daftshadow · Jun 28, 2005, 08:16 PM // 20:16

i think it's pretty hilarious when some people misspelled the town names. but you still get the picture of what they are talking about. so it's no biggy for me.

d4nowar · Jun 28, 2005, 08:29 PM // 20:29

I stand corrected on Ventari's Dell/Refuge.

Zexion · Jun 28, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Maybe it's the translation to different languages.
Maybe Lion's Arch is (Das) Tor des Leues in German, which translates directly to Lion's Gate.

Might just be.

_Zexion

Arvydas · Jun 28, 2005, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Those don't bother me much... but when someone say they need a sigil but instead they mean the signet, that bothers me.

In pre-searing: "can someone party with me to get the sigil?" LOL

EDIT: I know sometimes noobs mix them up when they start to see people talking about sigils.

Shadowdaemon · Jun 28, 2005, 10:11 PM // 22:11

i frequently say lions gate too, until i think of the film company(seen alot of their movies) one i hear alot though is people messing up FORT RANIK
i have heard

fort rankin
fort rankor(and there is a CAMP rankor, which always mixes me up)
fort ranok

actually i mess up the d'allesio seaboard too, i just type something close and wait to be corrected, i cant ever remember how to spell it

Van the Warrior · Jun 28, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12

i've called it for kankor for 2 weeks

CharSol · Jun 28, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20

For a while i got Fort Ranik confused with Price Rurik, all those Rs and Ks

Arvydas · Jun 28, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by CharSol

For a while i got Fort Ranik confused with Price Rurik, all those Rs and Ks

Some people said Fort Rurik

And I want to mention Old Ashford/Abbey (Sardalec Sanitarium)

Dreamsmith · Jun 28, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

pwnzorcised like al capowned

Uh, sure.

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Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches

As long as you know what I mean, it doens't really matter.

I'll remember that next time you need directions. "Yeah, if you want to get to Sincerity Temple, you should start from Fort Rurik, head east in the Recent Valley until you get to the Bookmarked Flats, then head north to the Salinity Temple. You can't miss it. But if you end up on the Eastern Front, you've gone too far. Keep going that way and you'll end up in the Ruins of Sumeria."

Arvydas · Jun 28, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

Uh, sure.

I'll remember that next time you need directions. "Yeah, if you want to get to Sincerity Temple, you should start from Fort Rurik, head east in the Recent Valley until you get to the Bookmarked Flats, then head north to the Salinity Temple. You can't miss it. But if you end up on the Eastern Front, you've gone too far. Keep going that way and you'll end up in the Ruins of Sumeria."

Nice one.. =D

alexmeier175 · Jun 28, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

No I totally agree; my Ragner was over in the Sardelan Sanctimonium after coming from pre-searing Ascathon and these guys were talking about how they were going to go to the Delivery Seabord! It's not Delivery, it's DELISSIO!

Rofl

It's actually D'Alessio...anyway I am hopelessly dyslexic when I tyup and so names of place do get jamble3d in my mind..Elona's reach is ones of them...I dunno I can't get why it is Elona reach...it makes more sense for me to thikn of it as a first name Elona rather than a tribe (elonians) and so it becomes a person's reach..Elona's reach..go figure...
But yeah it can get coonfusing when you're sitting in bacon's perch and people are asked to be run to dragon's forge and you'd rather go to guts of kruta.....or when you are in druid's ascend trying to get to bloddstone falls by way of ventari's quarrel, and get lost in Ettin's top, because you takea wrong turn in dry back...